Earlier today, John Lovell of the Warrior-Poet Society put out a short video on Instagram where he said:
If the mob silences you and you hide your morality from the mob, you’re not really moral. You’re fake.
I responded with a different perspective, and got this interesting reply:
To be clear, I am a huge fan of John Lovell and his work. Lovell is a former army ranger with multiple tours over-seas. His YouTube channel is phenomenal, and he is among the early heavy-lifters in creating alternative platforms for content creation in our corporate, post-free-speech age.
That said, I think he is wrong in his approach here… because John Lovell is a Christian.
There is nothing wrong with not wanting to slay your enemy–after all, even Sun Tzu said that the superior general subdues his enemy without ever needing to fight.
But there is something misguided about believing that the mob that is censoring and attacking you is composed of brothers and sisters, who are simply in need of rescue.
Lovell’s view is theological, and theologically he is 100% correct. But this perspective is neither effective at — nor does it care about — success in winning whatever battle may be going on in this political domain. It is derived from the theological injunction to act in accordance with the spirit of God, who turns the other cheek and permits himself to be executed on the assumption that death is not the end.
I make the full argument in Holy Nihilism: The Moral and Spiritual Case Against Christianity. But the short is this: Christianity naturally inclines over time towards pacifism because there is nothing to fight over on earth if your relationship with God is all that matters. And make no mistake: in the Christian view, your relationship with God is all that matters. Everything else is either an expression of that relationship, a mere tool to facilitate that relationship, or an invitation to idolatry and sin.
At its core, Christian sin is essentially just losing focus on God.
To care about earthly outcomes is to miss the mark.
Anyone who thinks Christianity is essential for “saving the West” or “restoring America” is fundamentally thinking of relationship with God as a utility for earthly means, rather than as an end in its own right. It is not the Christian attitude.
My prediction in Holy Nihilism is that over time, as men become more deeply intertwined with their faith, this theological truth becomes more clear. This is a general trend, not always true of particular individuals or even particular decades. But as a rule of thumb, it is predictive, and it is predictive because God is invincible, and one’s relationship with God is likewise invincible, even in the face of death.
There is no use fighting to protect what cannot die.
To do so might even threaten the very relationship with God one is hoping to preserve:
What is evil in War? Is it the death of some who will die in any case, that others may live in peaceful subjection? This is mere cowardly dislike, not any religious feeling. The real evils in war are the love of violence, revengeful cruelty, fierce and implacable enmity, wild resistance, and the lust of power…
Augustine of Hippo
“Contra Faustum”
As people grow in their Christian faith, as a rule their Christian pacifism grows with it, because Christianity is pacifistic at its heart. The proof is that even a seasoned army ranger, among the baddest of asses, can be made by faith to think of his enemy as countrymen, misguided brothers and sisters.
This may save your soul, but it is not a recipe to save your nation.
John Lovell disgusting simped for St Floyd of Fentanyl, parroting the lie that the drug evidence gobbler was ‘murdered’. That’s when I lost all respect for him.
Thanks, Seth. That sounds like something he’d say. I have some additional criticisms of john lovell’s character (IF that’s his real name even – plenty of “guntubers” and “influencers” in general are literally controlled opposition “f ed” “age nts” or “ass ets” using aliases – and if you honestly research, observe, infer, and discern you will find that is the case – “Oper ation” “Mockin gbird” doesn’t stop at “M SM”). But first I’ll provide some context of my motivation for this. This is true and not slander, and I say these things for the sake of God, righteousness, truth, and to help y’all not be deceived by honeyed words that mask an evil agenda. lovell is a fake Christian/conservative. I watched lovell for years and he spoke a lot of sense – but he has since shown his true character. lovell says to let criminals steal your private property and that you can’t shoot them if they turn around or to the side while assaulting you and stealing your stuff (link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qywVlD4BCo); And for context, someone in their ivory tower might think it excessive to put another bullet in the assailant when he was on the ground, but you have to do what you have to do to stop a threat – and also cops frequently “mag dump” threats when they’ve fallen to the ground (and lovell doesn’t criticize that, nor when cops do any of the rest of the aforementioned). he also pretends that “transg enders” are what they pretend to be (links to the videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cOUXud8m3E and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAQEO8uFlP0). lovell and his producer both shoplifted and joked about it (link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLEFK_xwEzM).
I just read a YT comment saying:
“@davidsalsedo6765
The Warrior Poet..
Honorary (K)Night of Malta Templar..
Special Forces-Army Ranger
God bless you John Lovell
IHS”
The “kni ghts” “tem plar” are “mas ons”/”cath olics”/”here tics”/blatant “sata nists” (and their “rit uals” and practices show this). Video the comment was under: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KecZDraaRQw
I’m sure there is some evidence that I’m forgetting and/or haven’t found yet. lovell speaks truth but then often laces it with lies. lovell’s agenda is to “demo ralize”/help push the “ove rton” “win dow” even further left/further into “sata nism”, for his/our “Fo rum” (W.E…) “rul ers”. he serves the same purpose as those “BR CC” “fe ds” he pretends to oppose. This is not conjecture nor tin foil hat stuff. Please research it.
When I encrypt words, it is only in the interest of protecting my speech from auto “censo rship”. The right to speak in good faith is “infri nged” on, on most all of the net. I hope it is not on this site, but I do not know.
I agree with you, Seth. I watched the bodycam footage that has since been scrubbed from the net (at least I’ve no longer been able to find it); The ones that show G.F. blatantly swallow a “fent anyl” pill, and him kicking the cops hard as they rather gently tried to help him into the car. BTW, here’s the video you referred to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kGb2ODcRGg
Oh, and G.F.’s prior “cri mes” do matter – contrary to how the “B LM”, “ant ifa”, “M SM”, “D C”, etc. “mar xists” omit or try to excuse the “cri mes” of their “fa lse” “mar tyrs”. We must also always remember that “B LM” and “ant ifa” are funded and protected largely by their “Fo rum” (W.E…) “mas ters”.
One last reply for now, seeing as my first reply was not visible to me until I submitted my second. God bless.
(they’re not visible until I approve them – I don’t agree with your characterization of John Lovell, but respect your opinion)
To C.B. Robertson – Well good on you for letting my replies through. But all due respect, this isn’t just quote “opinion” as I provided plenty of evidence, and there is plenty more on lovell’s own channel. The only uncertain thing I submitted is him being a quote unquote “honorary knight of malta templar”. As I said, I saw that in a YT comment in which someone was greeting him as if they were both templars. While it is uncertain, his words and actions strike me as exactly that type, so especially in light of that I thought it was worth mentioning. …And I believe I neglected to mention that lovell is affiliated with multiple companies who claim to support 2A but who in actuality support and even lobby for infringement – including daniel defense among many others. With those types it doesn’t hurt their bottom line because their bread and butter is gov’ contracts, not private sales – and either way it would be worth it for them because their owners and executives oppose real rights and duties, and serve the WEF marxist/socialist/satanist global beast system. I know that’s quite a mouthful, but they demonstrate it to be the reality of the situation, daily. Please research the WEF’s threats/agendas/legislation, membership, and reach if you haven’t yet – for your sake, not just mine. they are blatant about it on their own site and YT channel.
lovell didn’t even care to hide nor veil these things let alone repent of them, my friend. I encourage you not to ignore nor excuse them. I watched lovell for years and really liked his videos. But righteousness and truth matter/ed more than my fondness for the character lovell (and many, many others similarly) play, and when he ‘showed his hand’ I wouldn’t and couldn’t ignore nor excuse it.